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Dead_water · (This post was last modified: 04-14-2007 10:08 AM by Dead_water.)

Last week there were so many Jittery Jipple Potions and Steaming Skeem Potions that the whole trade first page was filled with them, not to mention there were several in auctions and there were two dozen or more JJP's in the wiz. Now there are about a half dozen of both the JJP and SSP in trades, wiz, and auctions combined. What's up with that? The SSP didn't seem to change in price much (maybe jumped 15k or so) but the JJP went from 20-30k (I got mine for 23k) to 90k (there is one in the wiz for 70k atm, but thats the only cheap one). What's the deal?

Oh, I think this is the right forum for this. If it is not, I'm sorry and could a mod please move it then.

thesovereign · 04-14-2007, 10:18 AM

It was recently discovered that JJP does 10 icons against pets with 10 int or more

And SSP does 11 against pets with 20 INT or more.

The 10 INT or more is pretty common, so JJP jumped a lot. 20 is pretty much only going to happen to pets who have read books or become smarter from cliffhanger of FCrosswords or some other int increasing thing, so is more likley only going to do 8 icons.

I am curious though, are you using firefox? Because for some reason it seems that the shop wizard doesn't always work on firefox for me very well, especially for stuff like JJP where there are not many on the market. For a long time I thought JJP was UB, but when I used the shop wiz in safari I learned that it was only 20Kish.

WiltChamberlain13 · 04-14-2007, 11:02 AM

I think it is because now that it is known how it works, many pet owners decide that it is good for themselves and therefore keep it for themselves.

Shattered Rift · 04-14-2007, 11:07 AM

thesovereign Wrote:I am curious though, are you using firefox? Because for some reason it seems that the shop wizard doesn't always work on firefox for me very well, especially for stuff like JJP where there are not many on the market. For a long time I thought JJP was UB, but when I used the shop wiz in safari I learned that it was only 20Kish.

Firefox has no impact on the effectiveness on the Shop Wizard. Possibly on the glitchiness that returns the Mall results rather than item results (though I'm only noticing that problem on Neo, since I doubt Firefox really has a problem with its submit functions).

The inflation is due entirely to realizing that they don't suck, and are actually quite good weapons. Anyone that picked up a handful while they were dirt cheap probably made a nice profit off of them.

WiltChamberlain13 · 04-14-2007, 11:10 AM

They're really good weapons for 2-player battlers, but not for 1-player battlers, unless the 1-player battlers are pretty new to the Battledome.

Dead_water · 04-14-2007, 11:17 AM

Yes I am using firefox.

I just didn't think that these results would get out as fast as they did. It was what, like 3 days ago that it was found for sure that's how they worked.... right?

And like Wilt said, they are pretty much 2p only. I don't see how that many people would want them, being as they aren't of very good use in 1p. Making them only really useful to ppl who do 2p a majority of the time (and I don't know many ppl like that....)

thesovereign · 04-14-2007, 12:08 PM

It only takes a few IDBers that were following the thread to say, hey for 2p JJP is better than RSB (Air>Light) in most cases for 2p, which is going for 460K, but much more common, I bet these will inflate now. There were only about 40 on the market, when I would search for them.

As for Firefox and the shop wizard, it only had a problem with items that there were not many on the shop wizard. If anything I would assume that it has something to do with a plugin I have or the way FF caches files. There was definatly a problem with it when I was using it, but it was only when searching for JJP (I switched back between firefox and safari a few times and firefox was much less likley to come up with a list that had anything in it than safari). I was just wondering If anyone else had this problem, but didn't mean to hijack this thread. If I encounter the problem again I will make a new thread.

Shattered Rift · 04-14-2007, 12:15 PM

Keep in mind: there are thirteen sections of the Shop Wizard. It's not that hard to land bad odds. The cache shouldn't have any effect since you're submitting fresh data and then (generally) refreshing on that data.

Dead_water Wrote:It was what, like 3 days ago that it was found for sure that's how they worked.... right?

Plenty of speculators with the money are smart enough to go snatch an underpriced item (shame I've been only focused on investing, rather than immediate profit). Even assuming it wasn't speculators, the majority of battlers (and nearly every battler that knows anything about battling) uses IDB, even if only as a reference and not for the forums. (And there was a time when the majority of battlers were relatively active here in the forums, too.) It's no surprise the price rose so quickly.

obiwanpi · 04-14-2007, 12:37 PM

Dead_water Wrote:Now there are about a half dozen of both the JJP and SSP in trades, wiz, and auctions combined.

There are currently 12 JJPs for sale in neopia... 6 on the SSW, 6 in trades, none in auctions.

There are 6 Steaming Skeem Potions for sale, 1 on the SWW (for 99900 np, not enough of a snipe for the 1-player battling me to buy and be willing to put up with the hasses of making it sell elsewhere, the going price being not much over 100K), 5 on the TP, and none in auctions. So yeah, that's not alot. On the other hand... SSP has as good iconage as my primary multi-use weapon (Sword Of Apocalypse) Averages, against most pets. If I fought alot of 2-player, I'd be rushing to get one. However, as more stock and the 2 player market becomes satisfied, these can be expected to deflate even more. At r89, I would not be surprised to see Steaming Skeem Potion go as low as Ice Club Sometime in the future.

WiltChamberlain13 · 04-14-2007, 06:19 PM

Luckily I withdrew my offer of 110,000 Neopoints for the Steaming Skeem Potion yesterday. I'm not actually that good at predicting inflation or deflation, but 2-player battlers would definitely want these two new items. I'd say that it shouldn't actually deflate any longer, but won't inflate either in the near future.

Cranberry · (This post was last modified: 04-14-2007 07:35 PM by Cranberry.)

Shattered Rift Wrote:Firefox has no impact on the effectiveness on the Shop Wizard.

However, if you have the Greasemonkey extension installed, Neo was (and maybe still is, I don't know) blocking you from seeing the first five shops on any given shop wiz section. This is related to the Improveneo program (which uses Greasemonkey to run) giving users an unfair advantage.