How to improve my 1-p BD set? All Suggestions welcomed.

[bnw2]

Heys, I was on a hiatus for a couple of years and was quite shocked to come back and see 9 iconers all over neopia. lol. Gone were the days of Zaptwigs / SoAF .. K anyway, here are my stats and weapon set that I just rebuilt..

Species: Lenny
Level:55 (still training vigorously up)
Hit Points : 225 / 218
Strength : LEGENDARY (115)
Defence : EXCELLENT (42)
Movement : AMAZING (94)

BD Set:
Green Sticky hand (Got them cheap, I know purple works too)
Downsize! (If only I kept my T tear then ...)
Black Frost Cannon
Greater Healing Scroll
Honey Potion
Winged Scarab (Temporarily measure to make up for poor def boost)
Staff of Righteous Fury
Golden Compass

Extra: Scuzzys Comb, EoE, Winged Hammer

I don't really have much to spend left (under 1 mil) But I'm working hard to earn more. Since I'm doing 1-player specifically for the time being, I figured icon types are not too relevant. But I do wish to improve further.. I had a few weapons in consideration though unsure if they would be useful for me. SOTD is one of them.. To block light. DMB is another.. And I even thought of Spectral Forest Bow for some strange reasons. lol. And sadly, the heavy training from school is draining my nps fast. I kinda regret labbing right from the start.

[obiwanpi]

First: Ew. Staff of Righteous Fury averages worse than the Scuzzys Comb I'd recomend switching them. If SoRF was your InSaNe Prize, I feel bad for you. I thought I was unlucky to get SoA.
Second: for important battles, where you need to pack an extra punch, use some of the 15 icon muffins.
Shooting Star Muffin
Smelly Dung Muffin
Robot Muffin
Water Muffin
Brain Muffin
Icey Muffin
Darigan Muffin

Is I beleive the current order from cheapest to most expensive, although I'm only certian about the shooting star muffin being the cheapest.

Also, Burrow and sink are extremely helpful in one-player, if you don't have them, you should get them those abilities ASAP.

For important battles, you may also find Lucky Robots Foot and Thick Smoke Bomb helpful as well, but like the muffins, be careful when you use them, because they're one use, and that's NP down the drain. Basically, for DoN only. Even for DoN, when you start getting into the higher level "luck battles" (past the gostkerchief or so) where you're hoping he doesn't use Jade SS, freeze you, or use a full blocker, and often have to restart if he does, those 2 items often just wind up being a waste of a weapon slot you could have used to do damage.

Besides that, get the 125 strength boost, and save for a weapons upgrade. There are a couple different options, but I'd recomend staying away from double-duties for one-player (It's really not worth it, when you can just restart if you have an unluck battle), and going for something like Bow Of Destiny or Wand Of Reality as the 13-icon NQII weapons will do a noticable amount more than Your current weapons, but aren't that much higher-priced than some of the other upgrade options, and I don't think it's worth buying another 10 iconer. I'd still keep on training while you're saving, though.

[bnw2]

obiwanpi Wrote:First: Ew. Staff of Righteous Fury averages worse than the Scuzzys Comb I'd recomend switching them. If SoRF was your InSaNe Prize, I feel bad for you. I thought I was unlucky to get SoA.
Second: for important battles, where you need to pack an extra punch, use some of the 15 icon muffins.
Shooting Star Muffin
Smelly Dung Muffin
Robot Muffin
Water Muffin
Brain Muffin
Icey Muffin
Darigan Muffin

Is I beleive the current order from cheapest to most expensive, although I'm only certian about the shooting star muffin being the cheapest.

Also, Burrow and sink are extremely helpful in one-player, if you don't have them, you should get them those abilities ASAP.

For important battles, you may also find Lucky Robots Foot and Thick Smoke Bomb helpful as well, but like the muffins, be careful when you use them, because they're one use, and that's NP down the drain. Basically, for DoN only. Even for DoN, when you start getting into the higher level "luck battles" (past the gostkerchief or so) where you're hoping he doesn't use Jade SS, freeze you, or use a full blocker, and often have to restart if he does, those 2 items often just wind up being a waste of a weapon slot you could have used to do damage.

Besides that, get the 125 strength boost, and save for a weapons upgrade. There are a couple different options, but I'd recomend staying away from double-duties for one-player (It's really not worth it, when you can just restart if you have an unluck battle), and going for something like Bow Of Destiny or Wand Of Reality as the 13-icon NQII weapons will do a noticable amount more than Your current weapons, but aren't that much higher-priced than some of the other upgrade options, and I don't think it's worth buying another 10 iconer. I'd still keep on training while you're saving, though.

Hey, firstly thanks for the advice. Yup, I did thought about the 125 str boost but training 10 str without lab is not cheap (Since school can't do it for me) .. And yes, I have all those important faerie abilities like burrow, sink. drain life, etc, already..

Oh and about the SoRF.. I actually like it cos it has the chance of 12 icons and has two more actual light icons than SC's five. I know SC averages better but I guess I'm just basing it on my personal preference. For DoN I'm actually stuck at Snow Beast.. The primary reason being that I haven't found him (Tried refreshing but in vain). Also even if I found him, I doubt I have enough stats/weapons to beat him yet..

I'm thinking of dropping the SC, SoRF, EoE for either 1 or two main weapon(s).. Of course I will still need to add. But the suggestions you mentioned like WoR or BoD is still quite far from my budget, I wonder if there is any suitable upgrade for my SC/SoRT within my budget.  SoA comes to my mind ...

[obiwanpi]

SoA probably wouldn't be to bad an upgrade for the SoRF... although my personal preferance is to make upgrades in Larger jumps, as I hate dishing out NPs, It wouldn't be a bad choice. As for the Snow beast... I had alot of trouble getting him as well. By the time I actually got him, I was able to beat the next 3 opponents after him as well. (although I sarted REALLY trying a bit late. Just make it part of your dailies to RF the advent calendar 25 times, eventually you'll get him. Might take a couple months, but you'll get him.

[Shattered Rift]

My immediate thought is: you're screwed, keeping Labbing. K-Questing along with Labbing would be arguably more beneficial (not for your wallet, mind, but possibly overall) than training up your Level for eight-hour, five-Codestone sessions. The next training bracket is the point where I'd say to crank your Level to 250 for Ninja Training (again, more expensive) for the sheer sake of saving time while training (back to the four-hour sessions).

Try running out the long-term training cost calculations (I think the average normal Codestone is 5,100 NPs), and also keep in mind that the Lab probably averages 15 worthwhile stats per month (unfortunately I can't get you a more accurate figure on that one, but that's what I'd estimate from personal experience). 10 K-Quests a day is probably going to cost you 100K or less (per day), and going to average three to four stats (said stats being determined randomly).

Choose which one you think would be truly more beneficial to you. Your wallet will definitely take a harder hit with the latter route.


Are you planning on doing Two Player later, or just One Player? With your Defense Boost so far behind, dual-duties and shields simply aren't worthwhile for you, and they have a very limited purpose in One Player (since your Opponent's Strength Boost will almost always be higher than your Defense Boost, thus well overrunning those blocked icons).


If, for your wallet's sake, you want to stick out the training and won't be labbing, Lennies are a good species. Bag Of Lenny Healing Seeds is a 50% species-healer, and Entangling Lenny Lasso a species-freezer. Both out of your price range, but certainly considerations if your Pet remains a Lenny. The alternatives Bag of Healing Dust being expensive, given I don't know the price on those, and H4000 Helmet being something over 6 mil.


If you don't care about the estimated 10% difference between Purple and Green Sticky Hands, sell the Green to get some green</lame joke>.


You basically want to run dual-Scuzzys Comb at this point, assuming you don't fight an Opponent that can block Physical/Light. An Opponent that bocks Physical will be more brutal, since there aren't many weapons that don't run a pinch of Physical (and every cheap nine-iconer I can think of off-hand does), but you could run an Ice Club as a back-up. It's the cheapest nine-iconer out there.

Now, obviously your Golden Compass doesn't deal Physical (but it deals Light). If you want to hang onto it for the variety (and the hint of Dark defense), go ahead, but odds are that Dark defense won't be enough to win you a fight.


As was said, switch out the Staff for a second Comb, unless you trust your luck (or like pushing it). I highly recommend consistency in One Player whenever you can get it (and I usually recommend a higher average when you can get it, which you seem to be able to to with those two). The Staff's place is more in Two Player.


As far as single-use items... each DoN has its own strategy, and you should know what you need to go in with before that fight, so just prepare those according to strategy for that one win. Stick to your normal set for typical One Player battling, unless we somehow receive a miracle and TNT goes back to giving us real wars.


Beyond the Scuzzys, there are a few (expensive) eleven-iconers (Garoo Elite Blaster, Goo Blaster, and one other I can't remember but should be linked two in the ratings on those) going for something over a million apiece. Beyond those are the thirteen-icon Wand of Reality and Bow of Destiny, running 3.3 mil apiece.


Edit: Wow, when I started typing this post, only Obiwan's initial response was up.

[bnw2]

Thanks.. And hopefully I get him (snowbeast) sooner rather than later.. hahs.

Long term goal : ELL - That is the main reason why I kept him as a lenny! lol..

[bnw2]

Shattered Rift Wrote:My immediate thought is: you're screwed, keeping Labbing. K-Questing along with Labbing would be arguably more beneficial (not for your wallet, mind, but possibly overall) than training up your Level for eight-hour, five-Codestone sessions. The next training bracket is the point where I'd say to crank your Level to 250 for Ninja Training (again, more expensive) for the sheer sake of saving time while training (back to the four-hour sessions).

Try running out the long-term training cost calculations (I think the average normal Codestone is 5,100 NPs), and also keep in mind that the Lab probably averages 15 worthwhile stats per month (unfortunately I can't get you a more accurate figure on that one, but that's what I'd estimate from personal experience). 10 K-Quests a day is probably going to cost you 100K or less (per day), and going to average three to four stats (said stats being determined randomly).

Choose which one you think would be truly more beneficial to you. Your wallet will definitely take a harder hit with the latter route.


Are you planning on doing Two Player later, or just One Player? With your Defense Boost so far behind, dual-duties and shields simply aren't worthwhile for you, and they have a very limited purpose in One Player (since your Opponent's Strength Boost will almost always be higher than your Defense Boost, thus well overrunning those blocked icons).


If, for your wallet's sake, you want to stick out the training and won't be labbing, Lennies are a good species. Bag Of Lenny Healing Seeds is a 50% species-healer, and Entangling Lenny Lasso a species-freezer. Both out of your price range, but certainly considerations if your Pet remains a Lenny. The alternatives Bag of Healing Dust being expensive, given I don't know the price on those, and H4000 Helmet being something over 6 mil.


If you don't care about the estimated 10% difference between Purple and Green Sticky Hands, sell the Green to get some green</lame joke>.


You basically want to run dual-Scuzzys Comb at this point, assuming you don't fight an Opponent that can block Physical/Light. An Opponent that bocks Physical will be more brutal, since there aren't many weapons that don't run a pinch of Physical (and every cheap nine-iconer I can think of off-hand does), but you could run an Ice Club as a back-up. It's the cheapest nine-iconer out there.

Now, obviously your Golden Compass doesn't deal Physical (but it deals Light). If you want to hang onto it for the variety (and the hint of Dark defense), go ahead, but odds are that Dark defense won't be enough to win you a fight.


As was said, switch out the Staff for a second Comb, unless you trust your luck (or like pushing it). I highly recommend consistency in One Player whenever you can get it (and I usually recommend a higher average when you can get it, which you seem to be able to to with those two). The Staff's place is more in Two Player.


As far as single-use items... each DoN has its own strategy, and you should know what you need to go in with before that fight, so just prepare those according to strategy for that one win. Stick to your normal set for typical One Player battling, unless we somehow receive a miracle and TNT goes back to giving us real wars.


Beyond the Scuzzys, there are a few (expensive) eleven-iconers (Garoo Elite Blaster, Goo Blaster, and one other I can't remember but should be linked two in the ratings on those) going for something over a million apiece. Beyond those are the thirteen-icon Wand of Reality and Bow of Destiny, running 3.3 mil apiece.


Edit: Wow, when I started typing this post, only Obiwan's initial response was up.

I just saw your post. Thanks too. Seems like I'm the only SoRF suporter here.. Haha. But I definately agree on the ELL and species healing weapon. Any chance it dropping to the price of KLP? I hope so but well, it may take years. I'm thinking SoA now.. You suggested that I continue Labbing? hmm. Cos with the HP at 218, I figured I need level 114 which is still at 4 codestones so I guess it is hard but still manageable.. I can't imagine what happens when the gap continues to widen .. lol.

[cutejohn291]

bnw2 Wrote:I just saw your post. Thanks too. Seems like I'm the only SoRF suporter here.. Haha. But I definately agree on the ELL and species healing weapon. Any chance it dropping to the price of KLP? I hope so but well, it may take years. I'm thinking SoA now.. You suggested that I continue Labbing? hmm. Cos with the HP at 218, I figured I need level 114 which is still at 4 codestones so I guess it is hard but still manageable.. I can't imagine what happens when the gap continues to widen .. lol.

You need to use 5 codestones to train for a point at your level (114)

[bnw2]

oh. I must have mislooked on that part. Ya, 5 codestones for 8 hours.

Btw, for 1-player BDing, is 2xSC (or SoRF) the best weapon combination for under 1mil ?
I can't think of any conbination that deals more icons (disregard of icon types) ..

[Shattered Rift]

Dual-Scuzzys is the best One Player option in that price range, unfortunately, with no real alternatives to speak of (Ramtors being significant costlier).

I wasn't saying not to train (and by all means make sure you're Terror Troving). Rather, as long as you're training while Labbing, you'll slowly breach that gap. Depending on whether cost or time matters more to you (I care almost exclusively about time, though most people care more about cost), I listed a possible route from the time-perspective. If you want to go with a Lenny for the species weapons, either take down the price on the Morphing/Transmog Potions and keep Labbing now until you can afford both the Potion and the Lasso, or stop labbing now entirely.

[CadaverGrey]

There are plenty of good weapon advisors already helping you out with your question so I won't bore you with more analysis.

But I do wish to put my opinion on one question you asked:

bnw2 Wrote:But I definately agree on the ELL and species healing weapon. Any chance it dropping to the price of KLP? I hope so but well, it may take years.

It WILL take years, or it WILL take days. You know how it is with TNT. A newly introduced weapon can basically send the weapon market greatly to extremes, so it's hard to say.

But as of currently, Bag of Lenny Healing Seeds is a hard to find commodity, so it's gonna be expensive. Keep in mind though that the price you pay for the healer should take into account the following formula:

{Market price of H4000 Helmet + Market price of the cheapest species healer (currently that would be the Gelert Healing Remedy}

subtract by

{Market price of Entangling Lenny Lasso}

The Bag of Lenny Healing Seeds should NOT cost beyond the final answer you get. In fact, haggle it to about 200-300k lower if you can.

Good luck!