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Stats on pet:
Not going to state stats because I want to eliminate the people who are going to tell me to train. I train daily.
I will tell you my pet is a skeith so my best species attack is 3 earth, 3 dark.
I train all stats, including agility and intelligence. (I'd like to get heavy robe of thievery eventually)

Current set:

Pirate Captains Cutlass
Bow of Destiny
Ghostkershield
Freezing Potion
Bag of Healing Dust
Honey Potion
Downsize!
Golden Compass, Cloudy Wand of Storms, Scarab Ring, Stone Club

I do both 1p and 2p battling. My 2p battling is almost exclusively no 100% freezers allowed.

My thoughts:
I'm unsure where to go next with this set. I would like to keep the PCC has my best and most expensive weapon for awhile. I know I went a different route by going with the expensive stuff first, but now i'm looking to round it out and go through the logical progressions until I get to the super weapon level. So please let me know what you think my next few moves should be. Upgrading BoD to WoR? Honey Potion to Gbomb? Adding Faerie Tabard or Clawed Shield for those trying to get around Gshield? Dual Duty like Air Faerie Crown and/or MoC? Something that I'm not thinking of altogether? LOL

Thanks ahead of time for the help!

Either way, I'm going to talk about training. The thing is, I feel that your set is fine until your 200 boost or so...if you're passed that, then fine. If you're WAY passed that, you've seriously gotta upgrade.

Can I suggest Portable Kiln as a replacement for your last slot? It gets pass Ghostkershield.
I also agree on your idea of the Clawed Shield. For those who KNOW you have a Ghostkershield, you should have one for the fire reflection (it reflects around from 6 to 9 icons from Portable Kiln =))

Yeah I was thinking WoR instead of BoD, and then portable kiln to break up the all out airlightphys attack predictability of the PCC and WoR. I'm not to my 200 boost yet, I'm just past the 125 boost now, but I make a good amount of np and I still have np to save after my training costs so I wanted to know what I'm saving for. So keep the suggestions coming please!

Heh, this line:

had me worrying "N00binator!" for a bit. Least till the line that immediately followed. You wouldn't happen to be one of those people who abuse a higher strength boost, are you? *eyes you suspiciously*

Anyway, it's a fine set for 200 boost battling, let alone 125. What you should be worrying about though, is that your set is very cookie-cutter, and hence fairly predictable in 2-P. I'm slightly out of touch with the 125 boost, but I can assure you that Pirate Captains Hats are a common nuisance at the 200 boost to take a chunk out of sets like yours (PCC, BoD & HP all get clipped). While that shouldn't influence your thinking entirely, since many a defence-trained battler avoids the PCH in favour of icon-based blocking like the 2 primary shields (G-Shield/Tabard) & MoC, that should be kept in mind. That and I may just have been battling weird 200 boosters.

WoR is NOT an upgrade to BoD, whatever the price may suggest, and given the icon overlap with PCC, unless you really intend to overrun the G-Shield's air/light defences, stick with the BoD. That said, overrunning the G-Shield is pretty useful, heh. Kiln would be pointless then. You're definitely going to want to upgrade HP to G-Bomb, not only for raw icon potential, but the lowered vulnerability to PCH (and also Potion of Concealment, lol). Clawed Shield I wouldn't recommend because I've found the potential to be a dead slot just too much (People are actually carrying Pocket Cooking Pots these days, despite what we raters tell them... . Rather than focusing on holes in your defence, I'd push more toward pumping your offense to eliminate worrying about defensive liabilities entirely. But that's my opinion. Tabard+G-Shield makes for a good combination, but leaves your set limited in its other options, and tends to make battles a guessing game, where should you put up the wrong shield... Ouch.

Methinks I got kind of carried away there. Take my input with a pinch of salt. Perhaps I'll see you at the 200 boost someday!

soooo...theres alot to think about there...

HP to G-bomb, definitely will do at some point.

Thinking defensively I could scrap the G-shield altogether and go RoTL, Tabard, PCH.... or just Tabard and G-shield.
I think I'm going to need some expert advise as to which is the best option there.

How useful would MoC be in my set since I already have G-shield?
How would I pump up the offense? Obviously something to either augment the PCC or catch someone off guard expecting to get hit with the PCC again.

Really I just want to fill in the one or two holes (besides the G-bomb upgrade) to make this set really complete because I know I'll be using it for awhile.

I don't think Matt was suggesting a G-Shield + Mask of Coltzan combo actually. He was referring more to the choices people make above the PCH.

The last person who gave you advice IS an expert. So take his advice without the pinch of salt, but lots of pepper!

Of course, if you want an added point of view from a NON-expert *cough*...

I would suggest going for the Faerie Tabard + Ring of the Lost combo. Reason have already been explained here:

http://forums.finalhit.org/showthread.ph...068&page=1

Also, cos Ghostkershield can easily be pawned, as per mentioned in this article:

http://forums.finalhit.org/showthread.php?tid=17950

If you are going for the Tabard+RotL combo, forget about the Pirate Captain Hat. You're gonna be having too many shields in your set, thus compromising a weapon slot for a good attack. You can lose less by defending, but you win more by attacking.

You also mentioned that in 2-player, you battle exclusively non-freeze. But you have a 100% freezer. How does that add up?

Anyway, my suggestion (there's gonna be some pretty big changes, heh):

Pirate Captains Cutlass
Faerie Tabard
Ring of the Lost
Bag of Healing Dust
Honey Potion
Dusty Magic Broom
Downsize!
Bow of Destiny or Wand of Reality

I bring your attention to the last slot. I would like to advice that you make a personal choice as to which icon you would like to power up: earth or light.

Wand of Reality will help to supplement both the PCC and RotL in my set suggestion. Bow of Destiny will help to boost the earth attack of the DMB in my suggestion. Both weapons add air to your already massive air attack, while both weapons have a bulk of their icons bagged by PCH.

So choose wisely

*pokes Cadaver* Non-expert, indeed! As far as rating is concerned, I still consider you my superior. Experience at these particular strength boosts does not automatically make me an expert.

As far as the non-100% freeze is concerned, I believe he merely swaps out his F-Pot for 2-P fights, earning himself a VERY valuable free slot. Surely Pant Devil/Grundo Leader/Ray Gun must worry you though...

I've already given you my input, and I'm firmly of the belief that set advice should come from as many different quarters as possible, so I won't bore you with more of what I've to say...

Sorry, I wasn't trying to imply Matt isn't an expert. I was just letting other experts know that I would value their opinions as well, the same sentiments Matt spoke on I believe.

Cadaver I really like your set idea, and it gave me an idea of my own, let me run it by you guys.

Pirate Captains Cutlass
Faerie Tabard
Ring of the Lost
Bag of Healing Dust
Honey Potion
Air Faerie Crown - I'll explain why
Downsize!
Wand of Reality

Now I know the Air Faerie Crown is overpriced right now and I know not to pay 8 million like some of these shady people are trying to trick people into. And I also know the WoR is more expensive than the BoD I currently have. BUT, although I like the earth attack, and the obvious lesser hit on the neo-wallet, I think the set I'm proposing has some sick continuity. No worries about which weapons go together because they ALL go together. The light+air gets me damage through burrow and sink, MoC? *maniacal laughter*, overruns ghostkershield and faerie tabard. It will get clipped by DMB, AFC, and PCH. But the way I'm seeing it the overrunning capabilities > clipping. Plus the thought of a combo like RoTL+BoD, off the top of my head, and the opponent DOESN'T use SoS, and my attack getting basically cut in half by G-Shield or the Tabard..... hurts my soul. lol Yeah I know there are lots of possible combos and they all don't work out like that, but in my far less experienced opinion I just see the air and light working better with PCC and RoTL.

Please please PLEASE let me know if I'm completely missing something here.

Thanks for all the continued help, its greatly appreciated!

Lol, I know you are not implying that. That's just my way of saying that I like what Matt has brought up

Anyway, your set might differ slightly, but you got the basic idea of what works. So yeah, I think you got your new set pretty much covered very well. Great job and good luck!