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Specie: Lenny
HP : 116
ATK : 98
DEF : 125
Int : 9

Set:

Downsize
Scarab Ring
Scroll of Flamestrike
Purple Sticky Hand
ECA
GBomb
GShield
ELL

SDB Items:

Winged Scarab
Leaf Shield
ALL of the 50% reflectors

Budget: ~4.5mil

ok, i MAINLY fight 2p - i do participate in wars and stuff, but i dun have a 1p set so i dont fight 1p that much (altho eca does give me many extra wins)

i havent played in a while so IDK wut is stuff like guild wars and stuff and i also dunno why alot of 2p wars ban items like eca (especially at my level)

the advice i am seeking is how to upgrade my main multi use attackers (scarab ring and scroll is just pathetic -.-)

ideally, in the end i would want to get 1 kiln, 1 sos, and 1 pcc, but i donno how to step in between

also - i heard and know MOC is a good weap, but IDK if i should use that or kiln. personally i am leaning towards the kiln, cus it does more damage and my gshield blocks like everything anyway

the other issue is if i should use a downsize. since i have the 125 def boost, the gshield provides huge defense and is multi use. so i think the downsize might be a waste, but i donno how to refill the spot

so, these 4 items r staying in my set (not planning to sell)

eca
gshield
gbomb
ell

the other 4 items i can play around with, especially the multiuse attackers

IDK bout dual duties, cus a good main attacker and gshield prolly does better than 2 dual duties in my opinion

not planning to train either - i like my league and stats (maybe i will train hp a lil bit but thats it)
well, you need to get better constants, maybe 13 iconers as Wand of Reality or
Bow of Destiny, any of booth are ok; or TGC 11 iconers ( Goo Blaster,
Garoo Elite Blaster, Bzzt Blaster and Fungus Ray ) and
Mask of Coltzan.
Wich of both? A stronger attack or a weaker-but harder to block-attack and more defensive? also inthe second idea you migth has to save a bit more but is worth. Sell the
Scarab Ring and the unuseful Scroll of Flamestrike, keep the Downsize! until you get a T-Tear, then put the sticky hand in the last spot and switch with your other weapons. about some fo your ideas about the kiln, the SoS and the PCC, the 3 millions of the kiln will left you with a million and some, manny for its power and the SoS and PCC are so expensive, look forward it when you have the money
i like icon TYPE and hard to block/strategic value over icon quantity, since in the worst possible scenario eca and gshield will buy me time anyway

i like the 13 iconers, especially WoR

look at this combo:

WoR + pesillas fighting fan + lenny chatter = 6 phys, 11 air, 11 light ----> enough to pierce shields? i think so

on the other hand, i also love the kiln...its a bit expensive but i think it worth it

i dun really like the other 11 iconers, since i think the JJP is fine at buyable and only 1 icon less

and as for -size, weight its usefullness vs the gshield + high DEF boost...i donno if it is more useful than shield

the 4 slots might burn down to:
1 BIG attacker
1 backup strategic attacker
1 more backup strategic attacker
1 sticky hand or downsize

i think i want the kiln for sure....but get that first or WoR?

any other suggestions?
One note about the ECA: once you break the 85 boost, the ECA becomes the equivalent of a 12 iconer (30/2.5=12), and yet it still costs more than the 13 iconers we have available now, namely the BoD, and WoR. While it does drag out the battle, each turn you use it you are technically doing less icons than you could for its price. After the 55 boost, it's recommended that you switch your ECA out for a once per battle healer. I might recommend the short sleeved yellow tunic since you don't plan on training, as the money from the ECA could easily buy you the tunic, and books to get the 500 INT required.

The second thing I'm going to say is that I would recommend the BoD over the WoR. Sure, you don't overlap the light and physical to break through shields like you did before, but isn't it really a better idea to avoid the shields entirely? BoD puts 10 through sink, and is extremely hard to block short of the Gshield - which, if you're facing you'll have problems using a WoR as well, while light is eaten up by two of the most common dual duties around. You also still overlap air, and that's the best icon that you're dealing.

Hope those two points helped a bit.
~phyre
the problem with bod is the earth...as moc and the common leaf shield can block (the moc is especially dangerous cus its 8 fire kill me completly)

i can also skip both 13 iconers for the kiln...idk if that is a good idea

also about the eca - i used it for a LONG time since i was 85 boost like 2 yrs ago
in desperate situations eca+gshield+defend makes the opponent nearly impossible to deal over 30 damage, or if they can do like 38-39, i can use specie attack which deals a net 15 damage

so thats why i use eca....i have diff ways of using it. i also find the crystal ball ability very useful

in addition, altho eca is equivalant to 12 icons, all the 30 points are towards me. they cant get "blocked" unless som1 drains life - which is very uncommon, as opposed to a 13 iconer attacking and getting blocked
pied speaks a good case for everlasting crystal apple Smile if youd like to use it, go ahead, its your battling style.

don't get MOC if you have ghostkershield, dark overlap makes it not that useful to you. If your worried about getting past ghostkershield (ie getting a kiln) remember that many g-shield users carry clawed-shields nowadays- it may be better to go steaming skeem potion to pump water and fire through the ghostkershield, but the other weapon combos you've mentione are all okay.

what's the perceived budget for the intermediate weapons before pcc/sos?
the intermediate weaps are a bit of a problem, but i think...this is the order

get WoR first (with pseliias fighting fan), with lenny chatter its 11 air 11 light 6 phys
use SSP until i can get kiln

wor will be my pcc until i get the real thing (which wont be a while)

subsitute rsb for sos until i get sos (which wont b a while either)

and after thought i am keeping downsize cus its much more useful than a shield if i am berserking (downsize+gbomb+beserk is good combo if double freeze occurs)

and wor's 13 icons is also better in the event of a freeze bomb, as opposed to the kiln's 11

so order of buying is:

WoR
Kiln
Rsb

save up

sos
pcc


wut do everyone think? i dont like the ubg or wcn that much...so i donno if i should use those as intermediates. as for defense, i think gshield and downsize is enough...downsize for the bezerk round and gshield for the whole fight. if opponent is packing kilns and stuff then i will turn to more offense than defense. moc wont affect me much cus WoR+psellias fan+ lenny chatter is all light/air/phy, which moc doesnt block. the mass air and light also blows through gshield+Ftarbard combo..so unless i meet stuff like gsword i think im good in all directions

suggestions and further advice welcome
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