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What should I upgrade in my bd set, I have about 2.5 mill to upgrade with:

Leaf Shield
Flaming Oven Gloves
Tower Shield
Tower Shield
Everlasting Crystal Apple
Honey Potion
Mask of Coltzan
Dusty Magic Broom

My stats:

Hit Points: 78 / 78
Strength: EXCELLENT (54)
Defence: LEGENDARY (133)

Species: Pteri

I am not looking to get a freezer, I do no freeze fights

I'm possiably thinking of selling everything but Eca and Hp, and then working from ground zero

First piece of advice: Train now, before the NCW fixes their league structure to stop people like you from abusing it.

Second piece of advice: Sell everything. A 250/250/250 pet with dual Fighting Folders pwns you, and yet your set is valued at more than enough to get to 250/250/250 stats with change left over.

Third piece of advice: You have a set over 10 million and no freezer, yet you've cleared planned on battledoming for a while. I cannot honestly take you seriously.

Now with the useful advice out of the way, let's try to help you push those silly boost/league rules further over the brink in a vain hope that people will wise up and fix them.

Sell at least one of these, dualing them is a horribly ineffective way to tank, anyone who's seen a tank before will beat that combo. You can do better.

Flaming Oven Gloves: Replace with Scarab Ring[idb], [idb]Greater Fire Potion or Clawed Shield, dependent on price and budget left at time of purchase.

Leaf Shield: Your MoC is a better earth blocker, the point here is the physical and water block. If you are seeing a whole lot of water, as in EoE, Pike Pike, Goo Blaster, Fungus Ray and/or UBG commonly show up in pairs against you, then either ]Frozen Wand of Crystals or Hobans Hat may be worth considering. Otherwise, I'm actually going to recommend that you upgrade to Yooyuball Keepers Chest Guard which sacrifices 3 water icons for impenetrable physical defense. Used in conjunction with your DMB, it leaves only fire and air (which you resist at 40%) as holes. Used on top of MoC, it cuts a 55 booster with Sword of Skardsen to 3 points of damage.

Other upgrade options for leaf shield include

• Sophies Magic Hat, which would combo nicely with Hobans, but is somewhat redundant with your MoC.
• Mystical White Cloak, which shuts off AFC, most of RSB and is strong against Golden Compass
• Full Pteri armor which negates stone club and has some fire coverage. Plus it's obscure enough most opponents won't know what gets through it.
  

You should also look into keeping Amulet of Reflection in your SDB - since if you can click "go" first it offers some defense against Prickly Potion's reflected icons.

I do not plan on training anything on my pet, this is my second pet for I use for fun, I dont use it in NCW so I'm not worried about that.
I dont have a freezer beacuse I cant afford a 100% freezer with my current bd set, I could care less about 100% freeze I had a Bfc but I was advised to just sell it becasue it is just usless.

I was thinking about selling everything but Eca and Hp and maybe getting G-Shield and then picking up a decent constant.

I just sold my Yooyuball Keepers Chest Guard to get the second Tower Shield.

Or I was thinking of upgrading the oven gloves for a CS

I'm inclined to think it would be better to have in your set than a second Tower Shield. There's no reason to be running dual on the Shields. Heavy Water will walk on by, and heavy in any other icon will break through. Meanwhile, it will have become a game of Species Abilities.

You'd be torn apart by Fire, and any constant weapon would be hindered by your Strength Boost. If you want to continue running a Pet with tank stats, run the tank: any other choice is suicide. G-Shield is incredible, however.

If you want to put that much money into it, it will take the Clawed Shield to beat Kiln. The Greater Fire Potion Rabid mentioned is significantly cheaper and would beat both through Boost difference, though it wouldn't do as much damage as the Clawed Shield could throw back in your opponent's face. It's also less of a gamble (since it's not the all-or-nothing that the Clawed Shield is). Clawed Shield also has that slight Dark defense, but Dark should already be receiving enough discouragement with in Two Player.

I'm thinking that Hobans Hat would be better than the Frozen Wand of Crystals, given that the two major Water sources are Essence of Esophagor and Goo Blaster (which both run Earth secondary, which could be countered via the Mask). (And the Hat as a replacement to Leaf Shield, since Mask is covering the Water. A Tower Shield would be capable of dealing with Physical, and I doubt anyone's running dual-Scuzzys to be a problem.)

Here's something I don't get.

When is it ever advantageous for someone abusing ECA to try to win with Shield + Shield + Species Abiltiy?

It would seem that since healing is not affected by stance multipliers, ECA + Dual Duty * Improved Defend would be the smart choice, as it requires your opponent to do at least 43 damage total/round to make any progress against you, the attack is less predictable before the fight than are species abilities and it's not as easily beaten with reflected icons.

Assuming an offensive 35 boost opponent has spent similarly to you, the best constants they are likely to have are dual 13 iconers. A 35 boost opponent with dual BoD or dual WoR is going to be able to overrun even G-Shield + Ftabard significantly via Berserking, but doing so deals a maximum or 59 damage/round. Using Improved Defend cuts that to 41 damage, using ECA heals 30 of that, leaving you taking only 11 points. If you can guess to use MoC or DMB correctly, you'll block 5 x 3 x 0.7 = 10.5 of that. And regardless of what you guess, you deal 8 points in return. Meaning that if you guess right you are nigh invlunerable, taking 0-1 damage and if you guess wrong, you are only 3 points behind in the exchange.

Should I upgrade my Moc to Rotl?

Nope, with your defense, your MoC is better.

While I highly recommend the RotL, it will hurt your set to make that switch. From an economic stand-point, on the other hand, the Mask's price is stable (unless TNT retires it), whereas the RotL's is slowly increasing.

Half of the issue is that the Mask is your only other dual-duty. The Ring's Light portion runs the risk of being blocked. It would also hinder your Earth defense (Bow of Destiny, Dusty Magic Broom, and possibly Garoo Elite Blaster/Goo Blaster being what that would let past). Another way to look at it is how common Sword of Skardsen are among your opponents, as it's a greater threat in a single fight (though you can still knock it down as your set currently is, albeit not completely).

Well I dont really need to upgrade my Moc to Rotl, but I have 2 mill to spend on upgrades and I know I can upgrade something in my bd set excluding a freezer

I think MoC would be better for you than RotL