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1 and 2 player.. but mostly 2
Budget: none at the moment.. all NP is in for my set..

PET:

Species : Elephante
Colour : Mutant
Gender : Male
Age : 1415 days
Level : 50

Health : 135 / 135
Mood : cheerful
Hunger : bloated
Strength : AWESOME (65)
Defence : AWESOME (64)
Move : EXCELLENT (42)
Intelligence : mega genius (53)


Set:
First slot-Plastic Butter Knife Big Grin
Downsize!
Leaf Shield
Elephante Unguent
Golden Compass
Golden Compass
Honey Potion
Black Frost Cannon

I am just running out of ideas.. Abilitys I got all the important ones.. Burrow, sink ,drain life, and regeneration.. (only ones I use)

Im open to all sugjestions.. I dont like stealers, I think there useless and ill never be able to afford a 100% freezer.. um is there anything I didnt mention???
The problem I see right now is that your only decent constant attackers are 2 Golden Compass. That's not good. What do you do when you run into someone with good light defense? IMO you should sell one of the Compass and get either one of the new weapons (maybe wait a bit as the price could drop pretty good) or something like a Scuzzys Comb. You would then be doing 10 icons (so you could match all the other people who do 10 icons, blow for blow instead of loosing 1 icon per round) I don't know how useful you consider leaf shield, but I don't like it. If you want to play around with that you might want to try a Sophies Magic Hat or just putting in another 9+ icon attacker.

It might be useful to get steam shield and quench too. They block all light and all fire, usefu (In certain situations)l if you're against dual NQ2 weapons or someone running alot of fire. Firery Gaze and Diamond Dust can also be useful, might want to look into those. Plus you can have 7 abilities on at the same time, so might as well incase you need them. I don't know, you might already have them and not specifically listed them, but they are useful none the less.

If I were you I'd also replace the plastic butter knife. Its no use to you, so might as well put in some weapon that you can defend easily against yourself (if they steal it) but decent enough you can use it if you need to. The new 10 icon weapon (In 2p, I don't remember it's name) might be a good choice, also Halo of Devilpuss, even Scarab Ring would be a good choice. Something that won't kill your set if they steal it, but will be useful to you none the less.
Um... If he runs into someone with good light defense, he'd be better off with Golden Compass than Scuzzys Comb. He'll at least get 6 icons from Golden Compass through.

Stealers are never useless. That Plastic Butter Knife is more useless than a Purple Sticky Hand. I've stolen Bow of Destiny, H4000 Helmet and other useful stuff before. If your opponent uses a Plastic Butter Knife in their first slot and you steal it, it'll be the same result anyway, and the Purple Sticky Hand acts as an anti-steal.

You wanna see useless? That Black Frost Cannon is the ideal example. Its 20% freezing rate means you can lose before it can freeze, especially when you do mostly 2-player battles. Seriously, sell it and get a Ramtors Spellbook instead, since you claim your budget is nil.

Two Golden Compasses... Sell one to get an Ice Club. Your new set:

Purple Sticky Hand
Downsize!
Leaf Shield
Elephante Unguent
Honey Potion
Golden Compass
Ice Club
Ramtors Spellbook

ErnieRob130 Wrote:
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Health : 135 / 135
Mood : cheerful
Hunger : bloated
Strength : AWESOME (65)
Defence : AWESOME (64)
Move : EXCELLENT (42)
Intelligence : mega genius (53)


Ouch. You trained past the dubloon level without getting to 80 str/def and the 85 boost, and you don't have the lab ray to blame.

I recommend that you make training your top priority. Your set is by no means bad, but you just don't have the budget to be tournament competitive. At your current stats, you just can't possibly win against someone with Everlasting Crystal Apple.


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Set:
First slot-Plastic Butter Knife Big Grin


That's just silly. Put a single use item, species weapon, or your own purple sticky hand in that first slot and you'll keep them from stealing anything worthwhile while still having a weapon of some usefulness.

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Downsize!


Strong, but you have even defense. In 2p, unless you are fighting against better weapons, stronger opponents or really good at predicting when your opponent will bomb, you would be as well off with a shield or defensive dual duty

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Leaf Shield


Nothing wrong with this. Alternate options are Shiny Shoal Shell Shield, Patched Magic Hat, Sophies Magic Hat or Mystical White Cloak

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Elephante Unguent


At the moment, the best value option for you. If you had a whole lot of NP, I might suggest one of the higher end scorchstones as for now they heal more, but those are several million

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Golden Compass
Golden Compass


This is fine for your main attack. The Air/Light/Fire combo is hard to block at your level, especially when you're doubling up and throwing 6 of each. Mystical White Cloak and some of the light-defense dual duties will cut this attack down, but not enough to cripple you. Yeah, if you end up fighting a Pteri with a Pirate Captains Hat, you'll be in trouble, but that's a single defensive weapon worth more than twice your entire set, so you'd be in trouble in a match like that no matter what.

Nevertheless, you probably should shop around for a 7-9 icon backup weapon or dual duty to give you icon variety. Essence of Esophagor or Amulet of Inevitable Betrayal would probably be the best choices here

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Honey Potion


Nothing wrong with this. A bit predictable, but the only other viable option is burning through 3k+ per battle on single use muffins.

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Black Frost Cannon


I think that the percentage freezers are underrated. Still, nothing beats a 100% freezer, so for really important battles, you'll want to swap in a Scroll of Freezing.

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I am just running out of ideas.. Abilitys I got all the important ones.. Burrow, sink ,drain life, and regeneration.. (only ones I use)


Regeneration has been flaky with me for the past month or so. In 2p sometimes it's only usable once per battle, sometimes it's usable more than once. I've equipped Healing Vapour for battles where I want to be sure to have a second healing ability available and you may wish to consider doing the same.

I wouldn't sell the BFC. It's very useful in 1-player, and can be useful in 2-player as well. It still does some icons when it doesn't freeze, and I'm sure you know from experience that it can win you battles when it works and lets you freezebomb your opponent.

I agree with Dead_water: the two GCs is overkill. I don't agree about adding Scuzzys (or RSB), though, because then you'll still be overloading on light. Stone Club, Ice Club (better to overload on air than light), or even Essence of Esophagor (although it's totally blocked by the leaf shield) are possibilities. Also, keep an eye on the new weapons that do more icons in 2-player than in 1-player (TNT has said this is intentional): Steaming Skeem Potion (8 icons in 1p, 11 in 2p) and Jittery Jipple Potion (6 icons in 1p, 10 in 2p). The price is too high now, but it'll fall.

I like Wilt's suggestion of the sticky hand, but if you really don't care for stealing, you could put some elephante-only weapon in there that your opponent couldn't use against you if they stole it (unless they also have an elephante, of course!). Enamel Elephante Body Armour is cheap and like a mini leaf shield, which could even be useful if you'd like to replace the leaf shield with another shield, like Mystical White Cloak (a nice little air/light defender, with a bit more dark defense as well).
Wow thanks for all the advise.. Ok.. Ill keep the Black frost cannon for now untill it makes me mad and loses me a battle or two.. I found that regeneration is sometimes one use so Ill get healing vapor for a back up.. Thats all for abilitys that I like.. and the dule GOC seems to be harder for people to block than you think.. some through sink and burrow and its cheap.. But its getting to cheap also.. I think ill replace my leaf shield with Sophies Magic Hat.. for the first slot I dont no for sure to put there yet.. possibley the purple sticky hand even tho I will never use it.. I just bought Honey poition and I love it.. It can be used for the first more for your oppent to have to "catch up" or good for a possible freeze bomb.. So Im looking at replaceing one of the GOC.. I dont want to get another 9 iconer unless its an upgrade I consider getting a ice club or stone club a downgrade.. at least GOC blocks some for my decent defence boost.. and air is great in the battle dome lately.. no one can find a shield or dule duty to block allot of air.. and people that use scarab rings against GOC is defeating there purpose because GOC blocks half of Scarab ring it self.. My healer there is no way ill get rid of 50% heal.. Id rather train HP and gain healing that way.. I looked into 85 boost but with my set I would come acrose to many 100% freezers and eca.. so Ill stick to 55 strength for now.. maby train HP to 140-150 and stop.. so
set:
Set:
First slot-Plastic Butter Knife-- Purple Sticky Hand  
Downsize!
Leaf Shield--Sophies Magic Hat
Elephante Unguent
Golden Compass
Golden Compass--change to what??
Honey Potion
Black Frost Cannon

o dont I need some light defence..Sad aa...


o and the new battle dome items.. the ones that are differnt for 1 player to 2 player.. Ill wait to make sure there stable.. and I love wars, and they would stink to have for wars..
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