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I've taken a very long break from neos with the exception of the stock market from time to time. I have bout 600k and no weapons. I want a good 2p set, and 2p set only. I won't be making more cash other than the stock market. All I could come up with is this set for around 600k. If there's a better one (give or take 100k) please let me know.

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Greater Healing Scroll
Pike Pike
Golden Compass
Amulet of Inevitable Betrayal
Frozen Wand of Crystals
Cloudy Wand of Storms
Scarab Ring

My Stats:
HP:64
Str:57
Def:55
Lvl:32
Move and Intel: too low to be useful

I have all the good ablities and I don't wanna train. I want to know if this set will work for around 600k and if not, what will. I like defense and dual duty. I'd also like to know what my next upgrade would be.

NEW, Plausible set listed in my next post. Tell me if you think that will work better, and what to upgrade next in it, thanks.
In my opinion, for 2p, you need to get a freezer. Also, I would ditch the CWoS and FWoS and get something better. I would get the Stone/Ice clubs cause 1. more icons, 2. cheaper
*train* HP!!!

other than that.. Sell Pike and one wand, and get RSB or Scuzzy, or sell both wands and get both, depends if you like dule dutys and it looks like you do.. Bugget for a freezer??
Oh yeah, forgot... Get a shield too. Cause right now the maximum amount of Icons you can block are 6 unless you use down size. And what Ernie said. TRAIN but no HP yet cause average is 800k and you dun have that much. Get a freezer like BFC or RFC. Ooops... CANT BELIEVE I FORGOT ABOUT HE NQII weapons... Yeah get a scuzzy or RSB.
I ment train HP..lol yes Add leaf shield.. sell both wands and get RSB.. Id train HP to atleast 80, save for a bomb and freezer
SET:
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Greater Healing Scroll
RSB**
Golden Compass
Amulet of Inevitable Betrayal--(Save & Replace with Dusty Magic Broom)
Black Frost Cannon**
Leaf shield**
Scarab Ring--(Save & replace with *Honey Potion*
Well in his first post, he said he didn't want to train at all. and he's already at 55 boosts so there is absolutley no reaon to train hp. In fact I'd suggest NOT to train hp. Instead you should get a labray, that way you never have to train hp again and can concentrate on training str and def. This should cover your future training...

As for your set:
I like the idea of selling the pikepike and getting a RSB. You should also consider getting a 100% freezer, which will become a neccisity in 2p batlting. If this would take forever, then you can get a honey potion isntead. the rest of your set is pretty solid from what I can see...you just need more firepower.
Alrighty, I'm going to assume that you're asking for no freeze battles. Otherwise my advice would be get a Black or Rainbow Frost Cannon and whatever else you could afford after that.

Dead_water Wrote:I've taken a very long break from neos with the exception of the stock market from time to time. I have bout 600k and no weapons. I want a good 2p set, and 2p set only.

Okay, I can work with that. It doesn't really meet my definition of "good", and you will occasionally get n00binated by morons with 60 million sets on their 55 boosters, but you can have a viable set for that provided you're either willing to put up with the occasional n00binator, or you're willing use a little discretion in picking opponents

Quote: All I could come up with is this set for around 600k. If there's a better one (give or take 100k) please let me know.

It's certainly a decent set for the budget. I'm not going to propose an alternate set, instead I'm just going to comment on each of your choices and offer some alternate possibilities to consider.

Quote:Downsize!

This is questionable. It's worthwhile when fighting against people with better weapons that you, or if you can smell the bomb coming. Otherwise an icon-based shield is better. For now I say keep it, as it's likely many of your opponents will have stronger offensive weapons.

Quote:Greater Healing Scroll

You'd be marginally better off with one of the Scorchstones that heals 50 or more, but those cost millions more, so keep this.

Quote:Pike Pike

This I don't like. It's a 9 iconer that gets 6 through Ghostkershield, which is great. But if you're fighting against a G-Shield, your set is going to be so massively outmatched that it won't really help. At this level, the water is weak against Leaf Shield and Frozen Wand of Crytals and the light is weak against Amulet of Inevitable Betrayal, Patched Magic Hat, Sword of the Dead and Thief Dagger

Consider swapping for a cheaper 9-iconer, such as Ice Club or Stone Club, both of which stack icons on top of your Golden Compass.

Quote:Golden Compass

Nothing wrong with this. Trading pretty cheap at the moment too.

Quote:Amulet of Inevitable Betrayal

You say you like defense, so I'd suggest maybe swapping this out for Sword of the Dead SotD deals fewer offensive icons, but it actually wins by 0.65 icons against Ramtors Spellbook and Scuzzys Comb instead of just breaking even the way AoIB does.

Alternately, there is the relatively unknown Thief Dagger which is a defensive dual duty that comes out even or better against Psellias Fighting Fan, Golden Compass, Scuzzys Comb, and Staff of Righteous Fury

Quote:Frozen Wand of Crystals
Cloudy Wand of Storms

I really like both of these for the current prices. They both offer a total of over 10 icons combined attack and defense, and using multiple dual-duties lets you select the one which has defense that will get used.

The drawback is that they are redundant with the deservedly popular Leaf Shield so you may want to consider how much you like defense vs. how much you like dual duties. Alternately, you can use them and the Scarab Ring to block the types a leaf shield would and not use a shield, as you have done here, or go with another cheap shield, such as Earthen Scorchstone, Mystical White Cloak, Shiny Shoal Shell Shield, Patched Magic Hat or the Virtupets X-514 Super Shield. And while I'm mentioning low end shields, I keep hearing rumours that the IDB entry for Sophies Magic Hat is missing 3 to 5 icons of earth defense - if those rumours are true, it will be a decent buy once it drops to under 100k.

Quote:Scarab Ring

Cheap, but still awesome. Remember that it comes out even or better against Gold Handled Katana, Tyrannian Lupe Tooth, Fire Hammer, Fighting Fan, Stone Club, Ice Club, Royal Wedding Ring, Sword of Apocolypse, Garoo Elite Blaster and Balthazar Claw

If you have even stats, don't even think about dropping this until you are at 13 icon or better constants. In fact, one of the problems of your posted set is that someone using Dual Scarab Rings will give you difficulty.


Quote:My Stats:
HP:64
Str:57
Def:55
Lvl:32
Move and Intel: too low to be useful

I have all the good ablities and I don't wanna train. I want to know if this set will work for around 600k and if not, what will. I like defense and dual duty. I'd also like to know what my next upgrade would be.

Well for at little less than 1 million np you could get to 85/85/85, which would give you a 25% increase in damage dealt and defended per icon, and that's a lot better than you'd do by spending that much on upgrades.

But if you want upgrades, my suggestions are

1. Get a freezer. Even if it's just a Rainbow Frost Cannon it still comes out marginally better than a 10 icon constant in most matches.

2. Get a Honey Potion. At around 775k for a bomb that deals 14.6 average icons, this is well worth the cost. It really should be in just about every set from 1.5 million up to about 20 million

3. Upgrade your constants. In cost order, the 10 iconers are Staff of Righteous Fury, Scuzzys Comb, Ramtors Spellbook, Royal Wedding Ring and Illusens Gems. In cost order, the 11 iconers are Goo Blaster, Fungus Ray, Sword of Apocolypse, Garoo Elite Blaster, Bzzt Blaster and Portable Kiln. If you get enough to afford many of those 11 iconers, you'd also want to look at these dual duties: Dusty Magic Broom, Air Faerie Crown and Hobans Hat
"All I could come up with is this set for around 600k. If there's a better one (give or take 100k) please let me know"

I think his buget is 600K so goals are low at the moment for these vast expensive sets mentioned..
To everyone who suggested him to sell this and that:

Dead_water Wrote:I have bout 600k and no weapons.

Thank you.
CadaverGrey Wrote:To everyone who suggested him to sell this and that:

Dead_water Wrote:I have bout 600k and no weapons.

Thank you.

Thanks CadaverGrey, that's why I tried to be very specific... to avoid potential mixups like that. I'm going to bed right now, and will study the sets mentioned in-depth tomorrow. Thank you for all your posts (expecially rabid_schnauzer and Q77) and if anyone else would like to comment, please do so.

I would just like to reitterate (sp?) that I don't currently have a set, I have about 600k to work with, and want a 500k-700k set that I can buy right now, and a goal set (not weapon) of maybe around 1.2 mil to shoot for in the future. Making cash fast is not my strongpoint, nor will i do anything else on neos other than 2 player battle and stockmarket (that means don't suggest weapons for 1p battling).

I do like dual duitys, not totally sold on the honey potion or the non 100% freezer idea though. And I'm not against having atleast 1 powerful weapon (maybe a 10 iconer? that's what I was trying to do with the pike pike, but I think I picked the wrong icon types)

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Ok, I think i got it figured out. Oh, and I remember why I chose the pike pike while I was reading rabid_schnauzer's post. It's a shield magnet! Flash it once, and they are tryin to put up other shields/dual duitys which do less icons the rest of the battle. That being said, I think I've decided on this set:

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Greater Healing Scroll
Golden Compass
Amulet of Inevitable Betrayal
Frozen Wand of Crystals
Scarab Ring
--------------------^definetly gunna have these in my set^
Essence of Esophagor
Psellias Fighting Fan

The EoE is for the same reason I had the Pike pike in, but EoE is cheaper and more of a leaf shield magnet. PFF is for using with GCompass when I wanna do max icons with not having to worry too much about shields/dual duitys.

The frost cannons seem to be 350k atleast, outta my budget for something i'd only use as a last ditch effort. Also, Comb and RSB are outta my price league too. SoRF is close, just not quite. Do you think this set will work?

Also, what then would I upgrade next? I was thinking maybe SoRF in for PFF or DMB in for AIB... but I don't know the price on DMB right now. What do you guys think?
see this:
ice club/stone club
golden compass
amulet of inevitable betrayal
pike pike/escence of eesophagor
staff of righterous fury/scuzzys comb
greater healing scroll
downsize
cloudy wand of storms/frozen wand of crystals

talking about the clubs, choose the ice club because its cheaper than the stone club and the icon tipes isnt a problem because the earth and the water are booth blocked by leaf shield and at intermediate the CWoS an FWoC are two very common, that defends earth one and water other and theeey has same popularity in BD

between pike pike and escence of esophagor i cant decide, but ill put you the facts(accord of your sayng that is a shield magnet):
the pike pike its more expensive but while defending
the pike pike its more expensive, but while your oponent tries to defend water (commonly with FWoC or not to common at intermediate leaf shield) its open for receive the ligth IF your oponnent is poor/dont like to spend and doesnt have a dual dutty like sword of the dead, ethereal sword, air faerie crown or not so considerable amulet of inevitable betrayal; while the EoE is cheaper, but leaf shield knocks off these completelyand gives your oppponent the opotunity of make a 9 or + damge icons with another weapon, but in my sugested set theres only one weapon that deals earth AND IT CAN BE COMPARED WITH ANOTHER ONE making it an competitive option of pike pike decide you wich take

between staff of rigtherous fury or scuzzys comb depends of you because scuzzys constant attack is safer than the random but cheaper staff that could be that does more damage than scuzzys, decides you

between wands, the frozen does rarer icons but is more expensive, total contrary of the cloudy wand, while in the defense the cloudy wand is better

at pricing:
ice club:65k
GC:175k
AoIB:105k
pike pike/EoE:140k
staff of fury/scuzzys:225k
GHS:30k
downsize:10k
wands:125k

if you have problem for doing np, learn some of spanish and go to the petpages of mei_ling:20k a day or bust
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