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I just had a thought. How about instead of Essence of Esophagor in the BoD + AFC + EoE + MoC, use Pike Pike? That way...

BoD + AFC + PP + MoC = EarthEarthEarthEarthEarthAirAirAirAirAirAirAirAirFireFireFireFireFireFireFireFireFireFireFireDarknessDarknessDarknessLightLightLightLightLightLightLightLightWaterWaterWaterWaterWater

That way, you have more Light instead of Earth which is easier to block? But then again, it really depends on which shield your opponent uses...

Now, you can also use Psellias Fighting Fan instead of Pike Pike, but that is easier to block. Let us check:

BoD + AFC + PFF + MoC = EarthEarthEarthEarthEarthAirAirAirAirAirAirAirAirAirAirAirFireFireFireFireFireFireFireFireFireFireFireDarknessDarknessDarknessLightLightLightLightLightLightPhysicalPhysicalPhysical
WiltChamberlain13 Wrote:That way, you have more Light instead of Earth which is easier to block?  But then again, it really depends on which shield your opponent uses...

You see, it's all a matter of counting the icons. Think of all the common shields and dual duties available (remember, we are looking at their combo possibilities here) and see how much each combo that you came up with can overcome that defensive combo.

Possibly the most destructive shield/dual duty combo I can think of for this weapon set is Leaf Shield and Dusty Magic Broom/Air Faerie Crown. They defend a total of:

Earth DefenseEarth DefenseEarth DefenseEarth DefenseEarth DefenseWater_defWater_defWater_defWater_defWater_defLight DefenseLight DefenseLight DefenseLight DefenseLight DefensePhysical_defPhysical_defPhysical_def

Let's see how many icons can get through these two for each combo:

BoD + AFC + EoE + MoC = EarthEarthEarthEarthEarthAirAirAirAirAirAirAirAirFireFireFireFireFireFireFireFireFireFireFireDarknessDarknessDarkness = 27 icons

WoR + AFC + EoE + MoC = LightLightLightAirAirAirAirAirAirDarknessDarknessDarknessFireFireFireFireFireFireFireFire = 20 icons

WoR + DMB + RSB + MoC = LightLightLightLightLightAirAirAirAirAirAirDarknessDarknessDarknessDarknessDarknessFireFireFireFireFireFireFireFire = 24 icons

BoD + AFC + PP + MoC = AirAirAirAirAirAirAirAirFireFireFireFireFireFireFireFireFireFireFireDarknessDarknessDarknessLightLightLight = 25 icons

BoD + AFC + PFF + MoC = AirAirAirAirAirAirAirAirAirAirAirFireFireFireFireFireFireFireFireFireFireFireDarknessDarknessDarknessLight = 26 icons


Conclusion: First combo wins. (I might have missed out icons or miscounted. Anyone can help verify?)

Of course this is just ONE of the many examples of defensive combos that can be used against you. As a battler, you need to think of different scenarios: Against Earthen Scorchstone, Patched Magic Hat, Mask of Coltzan, Ghostkershield, Faerie Tabard... the list is endless.

Also remember, at any one round, you can only use 2 weapons at a time, and that your opponent has EIGHT weapons to choose from. So really, we are just scratching the surface here. In the end, it is still up to yourself as a battler to come up with the best strategy possible with the set you have.

WiltChamberlain13 Wrote:Thanks to CadaverGrey, I now change my mind.  Go for the WoR + AFC + EoE + MoC combination because it has all the icons included.

Woot! I almost forgot that I had been preaching that kind of battle set before my hiatus! XD
I do not really think it is the number of icons, although that counts as a factor as well. The type of icons is more important, though it indirectly leads to how many icons you do to your opponent.

By the 'Thanks to CadaverGrey...', I do not mean I change my mind on the suggested set, I just changed minds about which option in your recommended set is better.
Why yes. Basically, type of icons leads to how many icons gets blocked by what shield which leads to how many icons gets through. Combo number 1 wins this scenario, but in another scenario, who knows. It's a matter of tedious calculation really, coupled by your knowledge on what is popular and common at the moment, and of course luck.

And that's fine if you're not changing your mind about your suggested set. I'm just wooting at remembering the fact that I use to suggest weapon sets that deals all icons AND defence nearly ALL the time! XD
Wow,thanks for all the great advice guys,looks like I've got a bit of calculating to do.
CadaverGrey, you did do a miscalculation.  The Leaf Shield + Dusty Magic Broom/Air Faerie Crown only does a total of:

Earth DefenseEarth DefenseEarth DefenseEarth DefenseEarth DefenseWater_defWater_defWater_defWater_defWater_defLight DefenseLight DefenseLight DefenseLight DefenseLight DefensePhysical_defPhysical_defPhysical_def

And not

Earth DefenseEarth DefenseEarth DefenseEarth DefenseEarth DefenseWater_defWater_defWater_defWater_defWater_defLight DefenseLight DefenseLight DefenseLight DefenseLight DefensePhysical_defPhysical_defPhysical_defPhysical_defPhysical_def
Oops! So I did!

Thanks for pointing it out. It's been fixed now. XD
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