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Species: Lupe
Lv: 28
Str: 39
Def: 31
Hp: 33/33

1) Illusens Earth Potion
2) Earth Faerie Slingshot
3) Scarab Ring
4) Obsidian Dagger
5) Mud Mixture
6) Leaf Shield
7) Immense Rubber Axe of Doom
8) Iron Lupe Helm

Daily income around 10k, have around 200k.Mainly 1P battle
For now it looks fine since your pet is still low in stats...It seems your lvl is awfully high for 39 str...either way, I would get the lab ray and start training your pet. As for your set:
you've outgrown the mud mixture, I would get a minor healing scroll isntead...and later upgrade to a greater healing scroll.
The IEP and IRAxe of doom are also a bit outdated with all the new weapons...I'm not too sure on prices, but a stone club and a crystal want of storms would work well in your set...increase your power and such. Also instead of the obsidian dagger I would get a downsize! and when necessary, replace the scarab ring with a frost cannon to 1st round freeze.
Q77, you really do like that lab ray, don't you? Wink Unfortunately, it's now getting expensive (600k, last I checked), and many people don't want to spend that NP on it... or don't want their pet's species/color to change.

200k is a decent budget to work with. I'd suggest the following:

Stone Club
Earth Faerie Slingshot (or Ice Club, if you want to spend more)
Scarab Ring
Greater Healing Scroll
Snowglobe Staff/Green Frost Cannon
Leaf Shield
Mystical White Cloak
One-use bomb (snowball, muffin, whatever)

I suggested the stone club and earth faerie slingshot because they're cheap and powerful. You'll be dealing a lot of air, but since you do mainly one-player, that won't be a problem... and in two-player, if you're going to overload on something, air's not a bad choice. The leaf shield, scarab ring and cloak together defend against all icon types. The GHS heals more hit points than you have, but it's cheap and you'll grow into it and can use it when you're up to 100 or even 150 hit points. And the green frost cannon and the bomb are for freezing and then pounding an opponent. The set's a little cookie-cutter, but it's efficient. Smile
Hey Cran, there are two things about your set... not only are you loading on wind (which doesnt matter much) but your loading on physical either way, but I was also advised myself in my set against carrying two pure shields- he is going to use one most anyway and leaf shield carries more common icons for his level.

Stone Club pairs naturally well with Earth Faerie Slingshot, but they both carry two of the same icons- a bit of a problem. Perhaps go with a little known Earth Faerie Bow to pair with an Ice Club, for more variety and less randomness in his shots? If you really like the Stone Club, you could pair it with Psellias Fighting Fan which costs alot more but is the 9-iconer with the best types of icons, or perhaps Golden Compass one in the same price range but dual duty. Either way you'll need to save up for those two, so i think EFB+IC+Scarab Ring will suit you a little more.

Many one player opponents carry useful weapons to steal... maybe you could equip a Purple Sticky Hand instead of one of those shields for when this is the case? you can always switch back when its not Smile
I know he's got icon overlap, but he said he plays mostly 1-player, so that's not a big deal. I was going mainly for powerful and cheap, considering his current budget. The bow is a nice suggestion, though, and not much more expensive than the slingshot. Also, I think it's okay for him to have two shields, as he's got the space. He could alternate one of them with purple sticky hand or downsize! depending on opponent; he obviously won't always need both shields in a fight.
Thanks guys..How about a set for 2P battle??
Basically, what i said if its 2-player and what Cranberry said if its one, i think. The key difference is icon type/variety, which is what i covered. Also, stealing is less... possible in 2-player.
Umm, Rylix, you are contradicting yourself a little when you suggested Earth Faerie Bow or Psellias Fighting Fan to pair with Stone Club.  You still have an excess of physical and air in either combo, too

I would recommend instead an Enchanted Wooden Bow. Less over lap, more variety and pairs well with a Stone Club, I think.

The idea of having two pure shields in battle is not something I am personaly keen, even in 1-player. In 2-player, it's worse. You would be relying on just two of your weapons, with no back-up in case your opponent throws something that blocks a substantial amount of icons from your two main weapon. I suggest you utilise on your defence by using another dual duty instead of the Obsidian Dagger. How about a Tooth of Terask or a Golden Compass if you can afford the latter? That way you'll be sure to have some nice dark defence on top of the light defence of your Helm and fire and physical defence on your S-Ring.

Suggested set:

Enchanted Wooden Bow
Stone Club
Scarab Ring
Tooth of Terask or Golden Compass
Iron Lupe Helm
Leaf Shield
Black Frost Cannon or Rainbow Frost Cannon for 1-player or Ancient Lupe Wand for 2-player.
One use bomb like muffin, snowball etc etc
I would have suggested Golden Compass too, but that takes up almost the whole 200k, and lately I've been trying to stay under budget (I usually have a problem with that Wink).

It all depends on whether you want to do more 1-player or 2-player battling, really. In 1-player it's all about power. Dual duties are awesome the first few times you fight an enemy (say, for DoN), but if you're going to be in a war or a 1-player event like some guilds/sites have, your opponents will very quickly gain much higher strength and defence boosts than you have. You'll have to switch to the style of fighting where you freeze and bomb them, attack with two strong weapons while burrowing/sinking, attack with one strong weapon and downsize, etc. This all really hit me when I started fighting opponents many times each for this IDBQ event. My Mask of Coltzan is pretty much useless when my 250-boost pet is going up against an esophagor with the 700 boosts.

Anyway, the same set won't be perfect for both types of BDing, and you'll have to switch some things around. In 1-player, the simple (and totally cookie-cutter) setup works well: two strong attackers, a freezer, a bomb, a healer, pure defence (downsize!), and two extra slots for reflector, blocker, shield, another bomb, dual duty, stealer, whatever. It works. I beat DoN with a 200-strength-boost pet (no defence to speak of) with this type of setup.
CadaverGrey Wrote:Umm, Rylix, you are contradicting yourself a little when you suggested Earth Faerie Bow or Psellias Fighting Fan to pair with Stone Club. You still have an excess of physical and air in either combo, too

I suggested Earth Faerie Bow to pair with ice club for less overlap. Most weapons in this icon and price range have similar icons Question.

I think another key difference in one-player is the fact that for most of the time you know what they can hit you with, (lookup idb one-player profiles) which lowers your choices for defensive weapons and hence mainly attacking ones become more viable. There is less chance and more planning. Im sure you could make a better-than-what-we've-suggested set for each individual opponent that blocks the icons they dish and attacks with icons they can't defend against.

But in two-player you don't know what they have, you can only make good decisions based on what is common. EG: we rate wind icons higher as in this price range wind is harder/less frequently blocked. Similarly we rate earth icons lower because they are easily eaten up by the common leaf shield. So attacking weapons that have a chance of blocking (and higher chance if its a good icon) are more useful, ney?
rylix Wrote:I suggested Earth Faerie Bow to pair with ice club for less overlap. Most weapons in this icon and price range have similar icons Question.

Ah, I see. Well, the Earth Faerie Bow and Ice Club is ok , I guess. I'm still a little concern about the air and a bit physical overlaps. But oh well..

rylix Wrote:So attacking weapons that have a chance of blocking (and higher chance if its a good icon) are more useful, ney?

Aye to that. So selection of the right dual duty is important Smile
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