yep dats what i think as well. nvr got a hp reduce afterr i return a week ago. hmmm... if only the lab raised more def... den i wouldnt have to decrease my hp zzz.
btw does the lab still raise def? i hope it does....
yeah it does raise defence. but very slowly and usually decreases it more. my pet is a total lab rat and it was too far gone to rectify it by training. but have had good luck with the lab recently. it has increased it overall by 20 points in the last month and a half
Lab Ray does not decrease Hit Points. It will give 2, 3, 4, or 5 Hit Points. I myself have Labbed for around 4 years, and over 2 of those I kept records. IDB ran a gathering of data for a year or so and nobody lost Hit Points. Here is my only remaining collection, a year's worth:
http://petpages.neopets.com/~Dunsparce
Culex Wrote:Lab Ray does not decrease Hit Points. It will give 2, 3, 4, or 5 Hit Points. I myself have Labbed for around 4 years, and over 2 of those I kept records. IDB ran a gathering of data for a year or so and nobody lost Hit Points. Here is my only remaining collection, a year's worth: http://petpages.neopets.com/~Dunsparce
Point proven at last, lol I can't believe people still claim they lost HP labbing, it is NOT possible
I knew you would like to see the screenshot but i don't have any.
I got 2 levels, and got def and lost hp... but is more common that my lab pet change gender or get hp. I don't think TNT would recoded his "randomizer" on the lab. Saying that the lab can't take is like saying that the lab can't give an specific color (like robot). I've used the lab about 3-4 years and never got a robo-pet (and is the only way to get one, right?).
A probability law says that the probability that something happen never is equal to 1 (that means it's sure it will happen) nor 0 (it's sure it won't happen).
Also here
HERE you may get an idea of how it can be posible that the sample provided by Culex may not have a data entry of this possibility. Just imagine the quantity of possible events (add or reduce each stat; ignoring how many point take/give, change of gender, change of specie, change of color (and all that colors).
The lab is coded to not give some things... for example, a royal pet (this was stated in an editorial). So the probability of getting a color change to royal from the lab is 0. And as far as all the people who did years of labbing and recording results know, the lab is also coded to not reduce hit points (remember, Culex is not relying on her small data sample alone, but memories of many years of labbing and of an IDB study where many people recorded lab results). Are you absolutely positive you lost hp due to the lab?
Also, you can't compare someone saying "the lab doesn't take hit points" to someone claiming "the lab obviously can't turn pets robot, because it's never happened to me." There are screenshots out there of pets being zapped robot, so even people who have never had it happen can see that someone else has. I have never seen a screenshot of the lab taking hit points. If someone can show me one (not a faked one, obviously), then I'll admit I'm wrong -- I have no problem with that -- but until then, sorry, I won't believe it.
Cranberry Wrote:The lab is coded to not give some things... for example, a royal pet (this was stated in an editorial). So the probability... is 0.
And as far as all the people who did years of labbing and recording results know, the lab is also coded to not reduce hit points (remember, Culex is not relying on her small data sample alone, but memories of many years of labbing and of an IDB study where many people recorded lab results).
Are you absolutely positive you lost hp due to the lab?
Also, you can't compare someone saying "the lab doesn't take hit points" to someone claiming "the lab obviously can't turn pets robot, because it's never happened to me."
If someone can show me one [screenie] (not a faked one, obviously)...
...I won't believe it.
First i don't feel that i'm being attacked and my intention is not to do it.
As Cranberry said the lab code makes not happen to certain things, then is coded to not take hp points? that was the question that lead all this thread.
I would say that Culex has indeed a lot of data here's what his site says
Quote:This is the record of Dunsparce's changes he's received from the Lab Ray 364 days running.
Yes, i'm absolutely positive my pet lost hp due to the lab.
the diference between "the lab doesn't take hit points" and "the lab obviously can't turn pets robot, because it's never happened to me." is the way that is said. The idea is the lab doesn't do certain thing. The latter has adjetives and emphazicers.
Then the prove thing. i guess i can make a fake one but i already said that i din't thake the screenshot. So i would lose credibility (a little bit more, surely). But if youy want to have a little more faith on me. this is my lab pet (i just love the specie change):
Meow_15 I got the map when it was cheaper because i wanted a robo-jetsam but then i decided that a pet that has no specie is so much fun
Finally, yes it is a question of faith... until TNT make a public statement with the answer to this question.
hen I'll admit I'm wrong -- I have no problem with that -- but until then, sorry, I won't believe it.
That goes for me too, never ever did I see one valid screenshot, never ever did anybody proof lab took his HP, prove it to me
Prove to me it ISN'T true, Novachoek, I don't see your proof either. Even if I didn't have my own evidence (which I'm not too sure about, my memory could be wrong) the fact that this rumour is so persistent and I've heard a number of different people relate memories of having it happen makes me think it's probably occured, though it might be impossible now.
And BTW, why would anyone lie about this?
chicken Wrote:Prove to me it ISN'T true, Novachoek, I don't see your proof either. Even if I didn't have my own evidence (which I'm not too sure about, my memory could be wrong) the fact that this rumour is so persistent and I've heard a number of different people relate memories of having it happen makes me think it's probably occured, though it might be impossible now.
And BTW, why would anyone lie about this?
There are plenty of people who remember being abducted by aliens too. In court, human recollection is one of the shakiest pieces of evidence you can offer.
Until someone can produce a screenshot of the lab taking away HP, and it's not faked, then I won't believe it.
I know, I'm not sure of my own memory either. But I don't see why some of you are so insistent it's never happened.